Christians moving to one state

[Matthew Cart]

I want to share with everyone (if anyone ever comes on here anymore) what I have learned lately (briefly). Recently I have changed doctrinal beliefs and this has effected my whole outlook on what we are supposed to be doing. (For detailed information go to www.americanvision.org. )

Thinking about the whole purpose of this website and ministry lately, I can come to believe that perhaps the reason why so many American Christians are reluctant to want to move to one state is because of their doctrinal beliefs. Beliefs effect actions. Brother Mark did a wonderful job encouraging me a couple years ago about the importance of correct doctrine.

If the world is going to get worse and worse and the end is near, then why even try a project like this? The reason our country is in this mess is because Christians are stagnant and do not take action to change things.

Since the end of the world is NOT near we need to take back society for Jesus Christ. Now that my beliefs have changed I see the Christian Exodus as something extremely wise. If all conservative Christians were to move to another state, and say farewell to the rest of the country's wicked belief system and deeds, then we would do well. Let us separate ourselves and show the rest of the States what a Christian society is like.

What if the founders would have believed as modern Christians do? They would have stayed in England and said, "Well, the end of the world is near and Jesus said we would be persecuted". Did they do that? No! They took action. They risked much to give us America because they would not accept the tyranny in England.

I say all this to encourage you all to examine your doctrinal beliefs. Jesus Christ would have us to be right and because we are correct in what we believe we will take the correct actions. So we should be laboring to change society for Jesus so that he may be glorified on the earth. Let us repent of dispensationalism and pre-millenial nonsense and tell others Christians as well about their false doctrine that is leading them to do absolutely nothing for the kingdom.

It is time to wake up and take action and stop waiting for things to "get worse and worse before Jesus comes back". Jesus is going to be glorified on the earth. The question is, are we going to be part of it?

Matthew Cart

[Hoot]

Yep.

I been sayin the same thing to all these folks since back in 05 when the original site 1st came online.

What was the last thing that Jesus told his disciples?  He told then to go wait in the city for his Father would send them the Holy Spirit and once they received the Holy Spirit then they were to go unto all nations and tell them about what Jesus had done for them and for them to turn to God and repent!

I have continually stated that I would stay in Arkansas and spread the word here. How do you witness to all who need it if your all perched in S.C. ?

I admit it would be nice for all of us to be together but, God has a place for all of us to be together with him. He has given us a commandment to spread the truth.

Corey, you have missed the point!  I hope you can tell by now that God has not blessed this endeavour.
I have not been here in over a year and yet I am one of the largest posters still.

My gosh folks, lets come together to worship our Lord and savior but lets spread out over this great nation to not only plant the seeds but to fertilize them and cultivate them.

In His Mercy,
Hoot

[Southron]

Give Christians a term or two of Clinton or Obama, or another neo-conservative like Bush and see if God doesn't bless this endeavour.  The American Empire is already crumbling thanks to both the Democrats and Republicans. 

Greg

Corey, you have missed the point!  I hope you can tell by now that God has not blessed this endeavour.
I have not been here in over a year and yet I am one of the largest posters still.


In His Mercy,
Hoot

[Hoot]

Nope, will not happen.

CE plan will not work.

If it was started maybe in the 60's or 70's it would have had a greater chance....but not now.

IMHO God is keeping this SC thing from happening. Love your neighbor....don't run from him.

When we are with Jesus....then you will know that this endeavor was not what he wanted.

[Matthew Cart]

If we continue with attitudes of unbelief and do not take action, then our plans will fail. But what are we doing to change things? We can't just stand around and wait for God to do something.


Matthew Cart

[Southron]

Nope, will not happen.

CE plan will not work.

If it was started maybe in the 60's or 70's it would have had a greater chance....but not now.

IMHO God is keeping this SC thing from happening. Love your neighbor....don't run from him.

When we are with Jesus....then you will know that this endeavor was not what he wanted.

So why are you even in this forum?  If you don't support the purpose of CE then what are you doing here?   

[kboyer]

God calls many people to do many things. Some are called to preach, other to serve and yet still others to build nations in his honor. Some nations can be raised up in His name from within , but most are so corrupt that he will destroy them to allow His people to raise up a new Nation in His Honor for His Glory. If those people that feel God has a purpose for them where they are now then that is where God needs them. As for me I am already here in SC. I've been here most of my life within the Greenville area. I've seen many people here that are fed up with the way the current government runs things and desperately want a change. All they need are some strong witnesses of Christ to help spread the word. I do what I can but with more of God's children here the faster the results will be seen.

Now it is said that the south is the Bible Belt, yet most Christians here are asleep to what God has set out for them.They are more concerned about being politically correct then in being true servants of God. It is not all their fault as we have been beaten with being PC for as long as I can remember. The churches are more concerned with keeping their 501 (c) 3 status then teaching the whole Word of the Almighty God. If a church has that tax exempt status they are forbidden from preaching about politics from the pulpit. God's Holy Word speaks often about politics and government alot yet preaches never mention it cause of their tax exempt status will be lost and back taxes may be owed. This is why having the right people here in SC will make all the difference in this endeavor. It's not the amount of talking people do here on the forum but the actions they take in their lives that will be the rod which they are measured.

As for Hoot being negative and judgmental about how things are ran here:  why not help out with getting the word out about the plan instead of complaining there is not alot of talking going on in the forum . This area is not the main focus of this endeavor, it is only a place for us to come to fellowship and learn of others ideas  and progress in their personal endeavors for God. Christ didn't write everything out then give it to the world. He went out into the world and spread His word and others wrote them down for us to live by. This is why I am here not to be an elitist holier then thou Christian, but to spread the word that Christians can have a Biblically sound leadership in the government either this government or if God wishes it a new God ordained government. The idea is not to separate from the world, but to lead by example. We have to have faith that God is with us and not worry what the world thinks of our efforts. If we continue to worry what others think about us then we are not able to do the works which God commands us to do.

[Erick]

I agree with kboyer.  Christians need to take action.  I am a pastor and missionary who is willing to be used by God wherever He places me.  I am willing to join the move to South Carolina, there is just several things that need to taken care of before I am able to move.  I am praying that God opens the door for my family.

I feel the government came up with the whole tax-exempt status for churches in order to muzzle them.  It has worked well.  It would be far better for churches to pay taxes from the start so that the government has no control over what and how they preach.  Pastors should never be threatened with jail or law suits for preaching the Word of God.  The government has no business controlling the church if a pastor discusses politics and endorses a candidate based upon that candidates support for Biblical values.  This government is tyrannical and will become much more so in the future unless something is done.  I'm not saying that God would have all Christians move to South Carolina but I would guess that there are enough Christians out there that are willing to take action and begin to turn things around.

Erick

[kboyer]

Amen Erick,
I'm glad there are others out there that understand this basic formula that the government is using against the Church and God's children. I'm looking forward to the day when Christians WAKE UP as a pastor preached on just a few weeks ago. I believe he was from Texas, but can't remember for certain. It was part of the one PRAYER program going on across the country in over 1500 churches. Yet I am starting to ramble. We truly do need to wake up to what the US Empire is doing to our rights. Not just our freedom of Religion, but all our rights are being taken and it seem people are just going to take it as long as King George continues to give of Stimulus Checks and other tax rebates and aid of other sorts. Its a shame the people of today are so easily lead by evil and misguided leaders. We truly need a leader like Chuck Baldwin or Ron Paul to wake up not only the Christians but all people across this nation. I look forward to meeting everyone when we celebrate God's victory over the evil thats taken over not only our nation but the entire world. The One World Order is coming then we will really see our rights gone. Lets not let this happen for our children sake. They need to see God's Will here on earth so they know the true meaning of heaven on earth.
Peace and Love through Christ!
Kenneth